Foundations of Education at NYU on Mar 30 2008

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Posted April 25th, 2008 by Chester Asher

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Location: 
NYU
Date: 
Mar 30 2008
Main Subject: 
Foundations of Education

Minutes from Flight School: Education's Foundations

  • What is Education?
  • Why is it important?
  • Why do we have to pay so much for it at universities?
  • How can we change the way public education is administered in New York city?
  • How do we take ownership and translate it into change?

ENGAGE!

Discussion on Affirmative Action - Golden

  • Doesn’t promote that much social equality, but whose job is it to promote equality?
  • The difference that Affirmative Action makes – the type of people who benefit may have been successful anyway

  • "Is it just a bandage for inequality? Doesn’t really address the real discrepancies"

Claiming an Education - Rich

  • Female perspective is left out
  • Women have to claim their education rather than receive it, not be passive receptors of it.
  • Are those in power in an all women’s institution really women or just emulating men?
  • All women’s environment: most conducive for growth if separated?

  • "Don’t integrate into a burning building"


  • "Can’t people be united under one cause, why the need for separation?(all women school, all black college, etc.)"


  • "But can’t groups seek to improve their own community/ people?"

  • Separation denies people from really experiencing, and it makes you weaker when you had
  • You can segregate based on ideas not just physical characteristics. i.e. Having a community of free thinkers

Banking Concept of Education - Freire

  • Students = containers, receptacles filled by teacher. Intake and spit back education
  • A lot of negative stimuli so if you give kids all this choice, many will chose the wrong shit
  • Home school – give kids the opportunity. After a while kids get bored, are curious, want to explore and want to learn
  • We under-estimate children
  • Will free thinkers lead to the best outcomes?
  • What is the overall goal of this free-thinking education?
  • We are taught to memorize, what is a good student?
  • Conforming and not conforming
  • Just because you’re a good student doesn’t mean you’re a fucking receptacle

  • "Biggest disappointment is when we don’t equip students to live in the immediate world outside of the school."

  • Educational foundation was to make workers, only in college do you have the freedom to really think – and most people don’t go to college.

    Shit, most people in college don’t really think."

On the Reproduction of the Relations of Productions - Althusser

  • How did education become a tool to exploit people? Some say the church?
  • School should be transformative but it keeps you at a place: its’ an institution and promotes some type of ideology.
  • We can raise the bottom and things have gotten better.
  • Our school system is based on a city and is based on efficiency. You would have to completely subvert society to change its ideology of schools
  • Repressive (function through violence, public: government, prison) state VS Ideological (private: family, education, church) state apparatus
  • People attack repressive apparatus more cuz it is more tangible
  • Do we need more money? Not necessarily, shouldn’t need money to motivate people

  • "Aren’t we sacrificing for others so that they can live comfortably? If so can’t we demand some of the same comfort for ourselves"

  • Money for better grades/ schools giving more money for better grades, paying teachers more for students better grades, / but don’t people go to school to get more money?

Next Flight School 4/20 3pm
Topic:

  • Alternatives to our education system?
  • Liberation theology, how do we take control of our education?
  • True education through dialogue, dialogue that creates change/ practice
  • Charter schools, home-schooling, black nationalism, freedom schools, alternative schools, community control

Network:

  • Bring more people to flight school
  • Those not in college, or wouldn’t know about this info
  • can’t impose opinions on people, just let ‘em know
  • Then “Let Truth and Falsehood Grapple”

Jean Anyon "Ghetto Schooling"

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Posted by Pascale on Mon, 04/28/2008 - 9:43pm